so since last summer ive been taking pre workout stims and i loved it, LOVED it...before that i never took any stims pre workout, i missed out LOL!

at one point i added phenylethylamine (PEA) to my E/C combo and i swear i felt like i was on drugs, at the gym the time slowed down where my rest period was too long for me to wait (90sec LOL) it was great...the whole body was buzzing and i felt like superman.

anyways, after trying yellow Gold (the anabolic pump 'clone') i got really sick, since then everything has changed as if im adrenal fatigued or something, same stuff that got me FLYING doesnt do shit anymore and i yawn on the way to the gym, its pissing me off. I still suffer from IBS and other things. DO NOT TAKE HERBAL SUPPS LIGHTLY.

it has been almost 4 months and im still messed up, do i bump up the dosage of my stims? maybe its a coincidence? i mean its bound to happen with stims and tolerance. I know a friend who takes double/triple dose of everything just to feel it, and hes been doing that for years.

im just worried if its something else such as adrenal fatigue, taking more stims will mess me up even more.

typical dosage, 25mg of ephedrine, 200mg caffeine, 400mg PEA (not high at all, thats a recommended starting dosage for those chems)

im thinking of bumping to 37.5mg of ephedrine, 300mg caffeine, and adding 40-60mg 1,4 dimethylamylamine (geranium extract)

waht to do?

Drop all Stims and try Reset AD by Palo Alto with DHEA. I use it regularly for adrenal fatigue. You have to take a break from all stims now and then bro...lol

yeah i heard good things about that supp

someone said pregnolone has a horrible bioavailability though...shit is cheap so worth the shot i guess

how much DHEA? 25mg/day?

im on HCG and other things, is DHEA needed?

i took a break from stims for about a week and took up to 100mg of benadryl per day, and i got used to taht real fast too lol

and it didnt do crap once i started stims

ive been sleeping better so i guess given time maybe it will comeback soon and i will def look into reset AD, thanks Tre

I would give your body a break from the stimulants.

Yeah, I take 3 caps of Reset AD spaced evenly throughout the day and one 25mg tab of DHEA/day. You could also do regular Dermacrine, which would probably be more potent. Too bad I'm allergic to PP's carrier...I seem to the only one that is:(.

bro, i ordered that shit, hopefully it will work for me,,,i love that total stim'd out feeling, everything is so clear! ahhah whats that line from 'apocalypse now'..."like ive been shot in the head with a diamond bullet" LOL

the thing is stims are important for me when running GH peps as i get really lethargic, i dose off at work constantly with my mouth open, i look so dumb sometimes im sure when someone walks by. So after work i drive home still dozing off and i gotta hit the gym and i need to be ready to go.

I wonder which ingredient in Reset AD that really works, im guessing its the dessicated bovine adrenal gland stuff...doubt the herb nor pregnolone will do much. I heard bioavailability of oral preg is very poor. Is 1 month with reset AD good enough to bounce back? When do you notice the difference?

very hopeful and excited

It's hard for me to remember when it kicked in exactly as I starting taking it months ago. On HRT, I start to feel worn out and I find that adding in the 3 caps of Reset AD along with 25/mg of DHEA I start to feel better. So...I've just continued it without stopping at all. I've never really gotten hooked in Stims, but I know that many use Reset AD to help them recover from stimulant over-use. Not sure what exactly is working in the formula, but I know that I have taken Bovine Adrenal before as a kid and it seemed to help then too. I've always had low testosterone levels and was told that I also had very stressed Adrenal Glands even as a kid(not sure why), so I've never had normal energy levels...even as a young kid.

sorry to hear that man, hope you are now a big muscley freak

curious, was it from stress? like naturally anxious, worrisome or you think its genetics? are you on HRT dose now? do you take Reset while 'on'?

well, reset should be here tomorrow i will give that a go for a month with DHEA as you prescribed and we shall see. Until then i will be using M-5aa or epi for preworkout kick lol

Nah, I'm still unsatisfied. My body is a little broken down because construction work that i did when I was a kid and still growing. I have to be more careful than I'd like because of these injuries and structural imbalances. I've injured myself quite a few times over the years from pushing myself...can't help it sometimes. I also do fitness modeling so I can't be too big anyway. I'm an ectomorph, like you, with a smaller frame that wasn't meant to have a ton of weight on it. My main job requires me to stand 8 hours per day. When I got up around 210 lbs, I started to really hurt after a few hours of constant standing. I just focus on staying lean and muscular year around so that I can get gigs and maintain the main job that I have. One day, I'll have a job that doesn't require that much standing and I'll see how much higher I can go;).

As far as testosterone goes, my doctor did some tests and asked me a series of questions. From my answers, he said that my low testosterone levels were mostly due to something that happened when my mother was pregnant with me. This was awhile back, so I can't remember the specifics. He was basically telling me that my endocrine system was stunted somehow. He's the best doc I've had, hands down, so I believe most of what he says. However, I due tend to worry and have anxiety, but this is more pronounced while being OFF. Low testosterone causes MANY problems in the male body so it's hard to pinpoint the exact causes.

I am now off of everything, even my HRT doses. My doctor approved my desire to go off every once in awhile to recover my natural testosterone levels so that I don't shut down completely. I would like to have a family someday and I don't want to cripple my endocrine system to the point where I can't do that. I ONLY use the Reset AD while 'on' HRT because that is when I seem to need it the most. I also don't use DHEA while 'off' because it is a hormone and I avoid hormones while on PCT.

Yeah, let me know how that Reset AD and DHEA work out for you. Remember to lay off ALL stims while you use it and give yourself at least a month before going back to using them. I'll bet you will notice the stimulant effects much more after you use the Reset AD and give yourself a break.

Reset AD is the bomb diggy, even if your adrenal is well, cycle reset, it is real!

Tre, it is the pregnenolone, it is an outstanding product.

also bovine adrenal material does indeed work very well also.

I had a nutritionist and health adviser recommend a product to my wife to help stimulate her sex drive, and she gave her a topical product with both pregnenolone and bovine adrenal gland. It came in a pump solution, and in a about three days she had a serious boost of energy from then on out, not to mention, she was pinning me down for the count....

Here is what I am sure many of us here are finding out. Natural supps require much higher dosages than what are recommeneded......