Guys,

Assuming you're using Prami, would there be any reason for NOT using these two substances (low doses each) in a cycle with Test? I'm thinking 300mg/NPP and 200mg/Tren Ace. Also using T-bol for 6 weeks.

paddington

most people say it's a double negative since their both 19nor. I think if you keep the doses low it would just be like running a high dose of one or the other.

That's exactly what I was thinking. It would kind of be like running 500mg Deca a week. I was going to go with Winstrol Depot instead of Tren, but it's too expensive. Thanks for your input stbizzle.

paddington

I don't really think there will be a synergistic effect if you run both and are expecting for it to be like running a high dose of one or the other. Even though they are both 19-nors they are quite a bit different in effect, especially at the AR. That's not to say you can't run both, They are both short estered so you'll need to be doing EOD or ED injections of both or you're hormone levels (especially with Tren) will be on a roller coaster, and you'll get some really nasty sides. If I was going to run both of these together, I'd probably ax the NPP and use Deca at a low dose 200mg (which is still good for the joints) and run the Tren A at 350mg/wk.

Verrry interesting emmortal. You've given me something to think about. I still have some leftover Deca and I could use the NPP in the fall to kickstart my "winter bulk". Honestly, I was just looking to put a couple of good compounds together that would help me "cut" this summer. Not to say that you can't cut with low dose Deca.

paddington

Yup you can cut on anything, just keep an eye on your sodium intake. If you were going to run Deca and NPP and I'd probably just start off with Deca and end the cycle with NPP, you'll get less bloat that way and be closer to your desired look at the end of the cycle.

pad werent you the one who added winny to your deca cycle and 'cured' deca dick syndrome?

might not be a bad idea to try winny but if its too expensive nevermind.

I'm not a huge fan of Winny + Tren, hello DHT overload

wasnt aimed at growth, more of preventing sides from progestins (hes got two for the cycle) by using winny which is not unheard of.

What sides exactly?

Yes and I believe it helped with that, but I also lowered my dose of Deca from 500mg/week to 300mg/week. Still was a little softer than usual with the Winny (oral).

Mostly limp dick.

I think I'm going to try Deca/Tren with Test and T-bol. Will throw in some T-3 as well and hope that my cardio doesn't suffer too much from the Tren. Thanks emmortal.