Hola,

Just looking for suggestions here. I have been using those 5hr energy boosting things available in darn near every store. I am taking night classes now, so this was my primary reason for using....to keep the energy up.

Now looking for something that will not give me the shakes and help with fat burning. Just wondering what you guyz suggest.

2ez, there are many good stuff out there.

usually OTC formulations contain:

PEA/hordenine combo, great stimulant but mostly a mood lifter, no jitters but could be overwhelming at first, stack with caffeine for better effect.

dimethylamylamine,,,geranium extract that is supposed to be real close to adrenaline, haven't tried it but heard good things, must be stacked with other stims like caffeine

caffeine, obvious

forskolin,,,supposed to mimic TSH or stimulate thyroid but from my experience it amplifies everything, i HATE it with caffeine but real good with ephedrine/caffeine

ephedrine,,,some carry dirty ephedra extract stuff but if you want pure ephedrine, goto a pharmacy and grab a box of Primatene, it has 12.5mg of ephedrine hcl along with an expetorant (guanifesen or something, mucilex stuff)


for me the best pre workout combo was, PEA/ephedrine/caffeine,,,but you will find there are many energy boosters out now with good stuff in it.

something i suggest are;
Jacked by USPlabs
Leviathan reloaded by palo alto labs
Zap by Core lab
Stim'd out by Generic labz

then you add your Primatene on top of it ahahhahaha

stay away from clen, you are an old man, its bad for the heart LOL!

oh also, how about hefty dose of acetyl l carnitine with Tyrosine? non stimulant energy boosters....or stack them with the above



if you use it everyday you will build up tolerance bro, just know that before you start....you will burn out from it.

oh and read my thread on tolerance to stim's, good bros recommend Reset AD by Palo alto.....i liked it, will use it again, to recover from stimulant burnout.

Thanks for the reply bru. Lot of info here...give me a day or two to read.